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I was talking this past week with a girl who was telling me that it was absolutely unacceptable for a man to cry: she had been with a “crier” and it did not go well. Now, granted, she went on to explain that this fellow she’d dated had cried over everyday things—stuff that the average Joe or Jane would deal with fairly adeptly, so I can understand her distaste. But then I asked her personally:
I: So, when my girlfriend [of significant time] and I broke up a few months ago, I cried: is this acceptable or unacceptable?
She: hesitant, pensive Well, I mean, I guess….
I: a bit incredulousOkay, okay, how about this, a hypothetical for you: My mother dies. May I then cry at her funeral?
She: Well I mean, I guess—under her breath—but even then….
I have to laugh at this, really. I mean, I can understand that it’s not really the manly thing to do to cry, and I would agree that in matters of everyday things, it’s nigh unto acceptable—the man or woman who cries about every little thing is tantamount in my mind to the man or woman who gets so pissed off about everything that s/he’s ready to throw things and spit blood when things don’t go his or her way. But realistically, however obnoxiously iconoclastic I might be, I cannot stand people who hold to such strict stereotypical gender roles that when a man’s own mother goes to her grave, he is to keep it to himself. When a man does that, in my eyes, he is either (1) the unfortunate slave of what other people—viz. his friends or significant other/wife, God forbid—think of him, or (2) schizotypal (think Muersault, of The Stranger).
This is the main reason men die, on average, seven years earlier than women. I gave up cigarettes because I wanted to feel what I was supposed to feel, thanks!
What do you think, should tears on a man, irrespective of circumstance, be anathema, or acceptable in some circumstances?
I was talking this past week with a girl who was telling me that it was absolutely unacceptable for a man to cry: she had been with a “crier” and it did not go well. Now, granted, she went on to explain that this fellow she’d dated had cried over everyday things—stuff that the average Joe or Jane would deal with fairly adeptly, so I can understand her distaste. But then I asked her personally:
I: So, when my girlfriend [of significant time] and I broke up a few months ago, I cried: is this acceptable or unacceptable?
She: hesitant, pensive Well, I mean, I guess….
I: a bit incredulousOkay, okay, how about this, a hypothetical for you: My mother dies. May I then cry at her funeral?
She: Well I mean, I guess—under her breath—but even then….
I have to laugh at this, really. I mean, I can understand that it’s not really the manly thing to do to cry, and I would agree that in matters of everyday things, it’s nigh unto acceptable—the man or woman who cries about every little thing is tantamount in my mind to the man or woman who gets so pissed off about everything that s/he’s ready to throw things and spit blood when things don’t go his or her way. But realistically, however obnoxiously iconoclastic I might be, I cannot stand people who hold to such strict stereotypical gender roles that when a man’s own mother goes to her grave, he is to keep it to himself. When a man does that, in my eyes, he is either (1) the unfortunate slave of what other people—viz. his friends or significant other/wife, God forbid—think of him, or (2) schizotypal (think Muersault, of The Stranger).
This is the main reason men die, on average, seven years earlier than women. I gave up cigarettes because I wanted to feel what I was supposed to feel, thanks!
What do you think, should tears on a man, irrespective of circumstance, be anathema, or acceptable in some circumstances?
More than acceptable. Necessary. Repressed feelings, particularly in males, often manifest themselves in other (ugly) unacceptable forms. Excessive anger, violence, etc. Crying indicates healthy expression of human feelings. You’re okay.
personally i think it’s impressive when a guy cries b/c it shows he’s really in touch with his emotions( and man enough, it takes some courage to break those social barriers)
ps my phone is broken so sorry i’ve been out of touch, i’m working on getting a new one, HAPPY FOURTH!
have fun with the fireworks
I found your blog through our mutual friend, Michael Hedden’s facebook, and I had to respond to this topic.
I think that God gave us tears so that we could express emotions that are too overwhelming to keep inside. It is a blessing to be able to shed tears. I am glad to hear that there is a man out there who is not afraid or ashamed to cry.
Personally, crying is such a powerful expression for me. When others cry I feel connected to them. I must admit, when I walk down the aisle one day, it is my hope that my husband will be so overwhelmed with joy that he will shed tears.
Marissa, thanks for your comment! It’s great to know that I’m not the only one who feels this way. I agree, it’s God’s blessing to be able to shed tears; I think it’s terrible when men or women are in prisons of their own making, unable to express themselves in dire circumstances.
Thanks so much!
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July 3rd, 2005 at 17:55:34
More than acceptable. Necessary. Repressed feelings, particularly in males, often manifest themselves in other (ugly) unacceptable forms. Excessive anger, violence, etc. Crying indicates healthy expression of human feelings. You’re okay.
July 4th, 2005 at 21:07:04
personally i think it’s impressive when a guy cries b/c it shows he’s really in touch with his emotions( and man enough, it takes some courage to break those social barriers)
ps my phone is broken so sorry i’ve been out of touch, i’m working on getting a new one, HAPPY FOURTH!
have fun with the fireworks
July 30th, 2005 at 22:46:46
I found your blog through our mutual friend, Michael Hedden’s facebook, and I had to respond to this topic.
I think that God gave us tears so that we could express emotions that are too overwhelming to keep inside. It is a blessing to be able to shed tears. I am glad to hear that there is a man out there who is not afraid or ashamed to cry.
Personally, crying is such a powerful expression for me. When others cry I feel connected to them. I must admit, when I walk down the aisle one day, it is my hope that my husband will be so overwhelmed with joy that he will shed tears.
August 6th, 2005 at 18:12:12
Marissa, thanks for your comment! It’s great to know that I’m not the only one who feels this way. I agree, it’s God’s blessing to be able to shed tears; I think it’s terrible when men or women are in prisons of their own making, unable to express themselves in dire circumstances.
Thanks so much!