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05 December 2004

ThinkBlog Logo: Plato Points the Way

19:39:14 :: [psychology, philosophy] :: 676 words

The logo described in this post

In the front page’s logo, you see a detail from Rafaello “Raphael” Sanzio’s The School of Athens (1509-1510) in which the great philosopher Plato points upward to the sky. This is only a small part of the larger work (local mirror taken from the Web Gallery of Art).

Plato’s academy was a place of congregation and dialogue for all sorts of philosophers; most notably, Aristotle was Plato’s most precocious student, but he didn’t quite share Plato’s ideals (so to speak). Briefly, Plato believed that for everything that exists, there were ideal forms from which the actual objects sprung; and that ultimately everything else traced back to the source of all good (though he hesitated to name this Supreme Good, “God” in the monotheistic sense due to the Grecian polytheism at the time). Whereas Plato, then, was concerned with the ideal, the abstract, the possible, the conceptual and theoretical, his student Aristotle was pantheistic, more “down to earth” or “scientifically inclined,” we might say of him today: he focused on actualities, facts, nature, and the concrete.

Nowhere is this distinction in idealogy made more clear than in Raphael’s painting, which shows Plato and Aristotle in the midst of conversation, with the former pointing skyward (toward the Ideal), and the latter gesturing downward (toward nature and the Actual). (You can see a higher-quality image of them alone from this picture, also mirrored from the Web Gallery of Art.) They divide the academy: everyone you see on the left-hand side of the painting is a Platonist, and everyone on the right is Aristotelian.

I see this as a delightfully pure distinction between two opposing camps of not only philosophy, but also personality and theological outlook. Abstract thinkers, like myself, are much more prone to consider and enjoy ruminating over the possibilities and potentialities. Concrete thinkers enjoy delving into the actual, that which Is. The dynamic tension here is so exciting to behold: two studied men, engaged in a deep discussion, courteous to one another and yet holding fast their ground, each explicating his paradigm to the other. This is the nature of philosophical discourse. As I put it when adding the picture to the Philosophy Club at Greenville Technical College’s Yahoo! Group (when I was secretary thereof), “we have strongly contrasting opinions each in our pursuit of a clearer worldview, [and yet] we walk side by side in the debate, challenging and edifying one another but each looking the other in the eye.”

Incidentally, I’ve found that I enjoy the writings of the medieval Neo-Platonists, like Augustine for instance, and agree with much of what they have to say. (That this painting was done in the Renaissance-Baroque period only makes it the better, even though you can find Raphael having painted himself into the Aristotelian camp of the work.) I’d rather discuss with you theology and philosophy than business or finances any day, and what really lights my fire is a serious argument fully in the abstract. (Like, for instance, aspects of existentialism, or what have you.)

So that’s what I hope to convey through this logo. I want you to think about things you might not otherwise consider and, thereby, improve your quality of life: because if you understand the Why, the What will come to sift itself out. I’d like to be your Plato in the Conversation of our times: to point you to something beyond yourself, out of sensory range, those thoughts and patterns of life that determine how you act and think and feel. I hope to point you to Christ, instead of what the world has to offer—and I hope you’ll dialog with me, whether you agree or disagree.

2 Responses to “ThinkBlog Logo: Plato Points the Way”

  1.  Chris Says:

    Though I am more of the agnostic camp, I too enjoyed the works of both these great men during my time in university (I stopped short of a B.A. with philosophy major).
    Plato is definitely the place to start for anybody interested in philosophy as far as I’m concerned. His whole style really just gets you pumped for more since he takes baby steps with you, letting you come to the conclusions on your own.
    I was also facinated by Aristotle’s writings, though his style was much different. I found I had to read things over a few times, but once it started to sink in I was able to see the importance he places on action and change.
    Both of these men have changed my views, if only subtly, for the rest of my life.

  2.  Michael Says:

    Yes! And that’s the power of philosophy. You cannot read a serious philosophical discussion and not be changed in some (however small) way, if you but think about it. If you understand it and agree, then you know the root of your opinion: and if you understand it and disagree, then you have further refined your identity and knowledge of both yourself and the world.

    I’m glad you enjoyed their writings. There are actually copies of The Republic and Aristotle’s Ethics online for the Googling, though the translations are a bit rusty due to copyright laws and whatnot. Feel free to email me anytime off-site or comment here if you’d like to discuss. :) Thanks for the comment!

ThinkBlog Logo: Plato Points the Way

19:39:14 :: [psychology, philosophy] :: 676 words

The logo described in this post

In the front page’s logo, you see a detail from Rafaello “Raphael” Sanzio’s The School of Athens (1509-1510) in which the great philosopher Plato points upward to the sky. This is only a small part of the larger work (local mirror taken from the Web Gallery of Art).

Plato’s academy was a place of congregation and dialogue for all sorts of philosophers; most notably, Aristotle was Plato’s most precocious student, but he didn’t quite share Plato’s ideals (so to speak). Briefly, Plato believed that for everything that exists, there were ideal forms from which the actual objects sprung; and that ultimately everything else traced back to the source of all good (though he hesitated to name this Supreme Good, “God” in the monotheistic sense due to the Grecian polytheism at the time). Whereas Plato, then, was concerned with the ideal, the abstract, the possible, the conceptual and theoretical, his student Aristotle was pantheistic, more “down to earth” or “scientifically inclined,” we might say of him today: he focused on actualities, facts, nature, and the concrete.

Nowhere is this distinction in idealogy made more clear than in Raphael’s painting, which shows Plato and Aristotle in the midst of conversation, with the former pointing skyward (toward the Ideal), and the latter gesturing downward (toward nature and the Actual). (You can see a higher-quality image of them alone from this picture, also mirrored from the Web Gallery of Art.) They divide the academy: everyone you see on the left-hand side of the painting is a Platonist, and everyone on the right is Aristotelian.

I see this as a delightfully pure distinction between two opposing camps of not only philosophy, but also personality and theological outlook. Abstract thinkers, like myself, are much more prone to consider and enjoy ruminating over the possibilities and potentialities. Concrete thinkers enjoy delving into the actual, that which Is. The dynamic tension here is so exciting to behold: two studied men, engaged in a deep discussion, courteous to one another and yet holding fast their ground, each explicating his paradigm to the other. This is the nature of philosophical discourse. As I put it when adding the picture to the Philosophy Club at Greenville Technical College’s Yahoo! Group (when I was secretary thereof), “we have strongly contrasting opinions each in our pursuit of a clearer worldview, [and yet] we walk side by side in the debate, challenging and edifying one another but each looking the other in the eye.”

Incidentally, I’ve found that I enjoy the writings of the medieval Neo-Platonists, like Augustine for instance, and agree with much of what they have to say. (That this painting was done in the Renaissance-Baroque period only makes it the better, even though you can find Raphael having painted himself into the Aristotelian camp of the work.) I’d rather discuss with you theology and philosophy than business or finances any day, and what really lights my fire is a serious argument fully in the abstract. (Like, for instance, aspects of existentialism, or what have you.)

So that’s what I hope to convey through this logo. I want you to think about things you might not otherwise consider and, thereby, improve your quality of life: because if you understand the Why, the What will come to sift itself out. I’d like to be your Plato in the Conversation of our times: to point you to something beyond yourself, out of sensory range, those thoughts and patterns of life that determine how you act and think and feel. I hope to point you to Christ, instead of what the world has to offer—and I hope you’ll dialog with me, whether you agree or disagree.

2 Responses to “ThinkBlog Logo: Plato Points the Way”

  1.  Chris Says:

    Though I am more of the agnostic camp, I too enjoyed the works of both these great men during my time in university (I stopped short of a B.A. with philosophy major).
    Plato is definitely the place to start for anybody interested in philosophy as far as I’m concerned. His whole style really just gets you pumped for more since he takes baby steps with you, letting you come to the conclusions on your own.
    I was also facinated by Aristotle’s writings, though his style was much different. I found I had to read things over a few times, but once it started to sink in I was able to see the importance he places on action and change.
    Both of these men have changed my views, if only subtly, for the rest of my life.

  2.  Michael Says:

    Yes! And that’s the power of philosophy. You cannot read a serious philosophical discussion and not be changed in some (however small) way, if you but think about it. If you understand it and agree, then you know the root of your opinion: and if you understand it and disagree, then you have further refined your identity and knowledge of both yourself and the world.

    I’m glad you enjoyed their writings. There are actually copies of The Republic and Aristotle’s Ethics online for the Googling, though the translations are a bit rusty due to copyright laws and whatnot. Feel free to email me anytime off-site or comment here if you’d like to discuss. :) Thanks for the comment!


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